SircarrotII I'm new to trueness scale and have been running proxmox for maybe a month but a noob here. But I think all has been said, and plenty of info in this thread for OP to hopefully make an informed decision. So by all intents and purposes therefore Type 1, even though the VMs run as processes in the OS (Type 2?). This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Virtuozzo Blog for Developers and Hosting Providers, Migrate Proxmox ZFS Pool to TrueNAS Scale, Truenas core shared storage setup for proxmox question. ============= PAYPAL ================Prefer to donate via PayPal?You can donate to us right here: https://paypal.me/ibracorpWe really appreciate your support in any shape or form. The Proxmox team works very hard to make sure you are running the best software and getting stable updates and security enhancements, as well as quick enterprise support. I also have Dell R720 with 2 GPUs and 192GB RAM. You get HA and clustering using battle-tested open source technologies, and you can get pro support with 2hr response time. And then when it comes, there will be a bit to learn. You want a Ubuntu VM with docker and perhaps more VMs beyond that. Started 43 minutes ago In this third part of our new series, we'll show you how to install TrueNAS Scale on Proxmox and set up ZFS.We'll cover VMs, datasets, RAIDZ2, SMB shares, linking the storage back to Proxmox snapshots, and more.We'll also be showing you how to install Windows 11 as a VM on Proxmox and many other settings, tips, and tweaks.============= Related Links ================TrueNAS Scale:https://www.truenas.com/truenas-scale/Proxmox Virtio Drivers:https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Windows_VirtIO_DriversProxmox:https://www.proxmox.com/en/downloadsRelated Videoshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPd6lpM01FY\u0026list=PLOgmFrM3hTGfw6n0OMxlbJ2lJSTskW4af============= CHAPTERS ================0:00 Intro1:47 Why TrueNAS Scale?4:28 Why ZFS?7:53 Why a TrueNAS VM?9:10 Install TrueNAS9:33 VM Creation18:56 Setting up Storage21:08 Create Users22:23 Create Datasets23:43 Create Shares25:02 Set Permissions26:48 Data Protection / Snapshots27:49 Adding More Datasets29:03 Create Windows 11 VM29:36 Linking Storage to Proxmox31:41 Windows 11 Template38:11 Benchmarking39:06 Moving a Disk40:07 Final Tips40:16 Monitoring40:30 Apps40:51 Static IP41:10 Outro============= LINKS ================You can find all of our links on the IBRAHUBhttps://ibracorp.io/ibrahub============= SUPPORT US ================ Subscribe on our website: https://ibracorp.io/membershipsYour subscription directly helps us give back to the community and keep things afloat such as our community on Discord and on YouTube. sush I will be running around 15 docker containers, a mongo database and 2 virtual machines. Part one of our new series brings you IBRANAS, the NAS killer. After reading a lot on truenas core, truenas scale and proxmox, the best choice will be truenas scale for my need (nas, run some VM, plex, nextcloud, bitwarden.) but i prefer to wait the stable version. Posted in Windows, By You must log in or register to reply here. By But it is still not ready and to me personally it can never replace Proxmox. Posted in Programs, Apps and Websites, By Why not just keep using proxmox? Started 12 minutes ago I run truenas under proxmox, best of both worlds. Assign the direct hardware to truenas VM and boot up. Register for the iXsystems Community to get an ad-free experience. TrueNAS got a easy to use webgui and sensible defaults for quick management of ZFS and services like SMB/NFS, scheduled Smart and scrubs with reports and alerts, rsync replication tasks etc. We think our community is one of the best thanks to people like you! It's not feasible with just physical stations around here, so with technologies like Nvidia GRID and Virtualization I would be enabled to use the same physical nodes for both the computer lab as well as for simply offering users/businesses proper personal space. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. "Absolutely must virtualize FreeNAS!" Second hand Dell PERC H310 or H710 crossflashed into IT-mode should be the cheapest (35) with great driver support and could fit 4 SAS or 8 SATA disks. colonel_mortis Proxmox is quite mature and has been around since 2008. See comments for details. I don't want to buy another server and would prefer to host caprover locally. In addition to that, I also wanted to move my virtual machines from my Homelab server onto this new DIY NAS. Register for the iXsystems Community to get an ad-free experience. How to create Virtual Machine on Proxmox with TrueNAS storage NETVN 510K subscribers Subscribe 252 14K views 1 year ago #netvn This video explains how to create a Virtual Machine on Proxmox. Also just to actually help answer the question even tho I still hold that just using proxmox is best, use Clonezilla to copy VMs or even bare metal installs from place to place. Once that is done we'll log into TrueNAS and set them up to be utilized as a Windows share.Download TrueNAS Core: https://www.truenas.com/download-truenas-core/Scale: https://www.truenas.com/download-truenas-scale/ZFS explained https://www.servethehome.com/an-introduction-to-zfs-a-place-to-start/If you are using old disks and need to format them go to the Disks of the node and note the /dev/***Then got to the shell of that node and typecfdisk /dev/(Name of disk to be formated)delte all partition and creat a new drive then quitPass a HDD through to a VMIdentify the disk you want to passthroughls /dev/disk/by-idIn the shell of the node qm set \"vm number\" -\"disk type\"\"volume number\" /dev/disk/by-id/\"drive identifier\"I.E.qm set 102 -sata1 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-HGST_HMS5CBLAHBLAH_MIDWSETISTHEBEST#loresdiyMy Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/LoResDIY (Future Proof! I get that by design and as named they chose k3s to be able to scale the storage and pods as well, but not many homelabs actually run multi storage deployments. As compute power evolved (FreeNas in specific, sure its the same for similar products) found new ways of running extra functionality (jails, originally limited iirc), but ever expanding in capabilites; today as every major OS (FreeBSD included) has a virtualization component ready you can run most of the services on a TN box, just as you indicated. Do you want to set up TrueNAS? Also note that OP is asking about Proxmox vs TrueNAS Scale. You must log in or register to reply here. Alternatively, consider Starwind SAN and NAS which was designed to be running as VM and supports both ZFS and mdadm. In global, i am happy. Truenas is focused on storage, while proxmox is not. Is there a way to move the QCow to TrueNAS and use it for both NAS and Hypervisor? Started 36 minutes ago Pick from three different membership levels to choose how you want to support us!You'll be given an instant Discord role to match your donations, completely automated. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. I guess you misunderstood me. Plug HBA or drives back in. TrueNAS Scale and Proxmox - are scalable hyperconvergence focused OSes TrueNAS - NAS focused OS Debian/ubuntu - hardware store where you build your solution. Though, in my opinion, for storage, it's leaps and bounds ahead of UNRAID and Proxmox. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Long story short, the beta due in June will have most of the basics there. Used to have everything on my Proxmox system. Scale could be recommended as a hypervisor *particularly* in the context maturity of platform, Blog for developers and tech executives, hosting providers and business managers. ProxMox does better with pure virtualization but the backup stuff is. Posted in New Builds and Planning, By To u/mosaati's point, you aren't just going to deploy point-and-click docker containers. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Part one of our new series brings you IBRANAS, the NAS killer. F@H Desktop: i7-5960X 4.4GHz, Noctua NH-D14, ASUS Rampage V, 32GB, RTX3080, 2TB SX8200Pro, 2x16TB Ironwolf RAID0, Corsair HX1200, Thermaltake Overseer RX1, Samsung 4K curved 49" TV, 23" secondary, Mountain Everest Max Host two VMs and 1 LXC container with a Docker server. It's easy! i'm not a fan personally. ============= PAYPAL ================Prefer to donate via PayPal?You can donate to us right here: https://paypal.me/ibracorpWe really appreciate your support in any shape or form. The Proxmox community has been around for many years and offers help and support for Does Proxmox support any docker container? You can create an additional virtual disk stored on this NVME SSD (in addition to the one for the boot pool) when creating the TrueNAS VM. But theres more to a hypervisor than that - just as theres more to TrueNAS Core than FreeBSD and ZFS. For the temporary solution, i am hesitating between installing . Also my experience with TrueNAS is that it goes better with your storage and backups. So Im soon to be setting up a new homelab and Im wondering if you recommend installing Proxmox or TrueNAS scale on my host. I shouldn't have said dedicated. durfsurn It may not display this or other websites correctly. Proxmox is an immature hypervisor and its PCIe passthru is still considered experimental. Install proxmox onto boot drive. I plan to install Truenas Scale as a VM in Proxmox, on a dedicated 256GiB nvme drive. Truenas scale supports containers and VMs so can replace proxmox altogether, trying it out these days. Proxmox is great as a hypervisor and have way more tweakability and tools for easy VM management. While I'm only tinkering for now in the homelab, projects like this in the long term could hugely benefit some of my other goals.A sort of long term dream I've had is to open a computer lounge. I blame this sub for my constant upgrades , Press J to jump to the feed. This has made my actual TrueNas server redundant which I could sell or just keep it as a backup server. TrueNAS SCALE is built on the same foundational software and middleware as TrueNAS CORE, which is probably the best known, the world's most widely deployed, and powerful free and open-source storage software. I've been using TrueNAS scale to run my dockers, VMS, and as a NAS. I install TrueNAS as a VM on top of Proxmox and pass your HBA/sata control/drives through to TrueNAS so it can directly manage the storage. I created a zfs pool "appspool" from the UI: Datacenter -> Storage -> Add -> ZFS I then created a TrueNAS scale VM and passed through the disk qm set 900 --scsi2. Proxmox is quite mature and has been around since 2008. Halken Do both on 2 separate systems! I don't want to be negative, but I would say not ever. You are using an out of date browser. IMO, it sounds like your primary use cases are more suited to PVE. So, TrueNAS fits this role. Have. I am running the Alpha right now, and it still has a ways. Install TrueNAS Scale on Proxmox, ZFS & Win 11 | IBRANAS - Part Three IBRACORP 20.5K subscribers Join Subscribe 266 Share Save 14K views 9 months ago Proxmox Series In this third part of. Less plugins for certain stuff like file integrity (glares at unraid). TrueNasis considered more stable and allows you to use ZFS which is quite resilient. 1. Tens of thousands of happy customers have a Proxmox subscription. Plus, I wish they would have stuck with regular docker containers instead of k3s, or at least the option to switch to either of them. ). Get your own in 60 seconds. titust1 May 19, 2022 T titust1 Explorer Joined May 10, 2022 Messages 50 May 19, 2022 #1 I plan to install Truenas Scale as a VM in Proxmox, on a dedicated 256GiB nvme drive. Posted in New Builds and Planning, By Mainline: MacBook Air M1Display(s): Acer K272HUL; VIOTEK - GNV32DBKeyboard/Mouse: Logitech M720/K780Sound: AirPods 3Operating System: MacOSPhone: iPhone 13 Pro (Graphite). Started 20 minutes ago I am sure there is a good development/engineering reason for it though. And if there are any potential issues. Why do you want to do that? Desktop:i7-5960X4.4GHz, Noctua NH-D14, ASUS Rampage V, 32GB, RTX3080, 2TB SX8200Pro, 2x16TB Ironwolf RAID0,Corsair HX1200,Thermaltake Overseer RX1, Samsung 4K curved 49" TV, 23" secondary, Mountain Everest Max. 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